• Re: TheA1200

    From Gods69@21:3/220 to klunk on Sun Nov 30 09:04:49 2025
    Hell no. I have a real A1200 :)

    I've two A1200 and one A500. Also have the A600gs and two A500 mini's...
    But i ordered theA1200 ! :-)

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  • From Gods69@21:3/220 to Bob_C on Sun Nov 30 09:07:45 2025
    I will certainly consider getting one, if the asking price isn't too outrageous!

    190Euros at Amazon France.

    Unfortunately, it may never be released, due to legal shenanigans with
    two of the old Amiga IP holders. Everybody wants to be in charge! :-)

    If not, Amazon do a refund ;-)

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  • From Bob_C@21:3/193 to Gods69 on Sun Nov 30 00:32:51 2025
    I will certainly consider getting one, if the asking price isn't too outrageous!

    Unfortunately, it may never be released, due to legal shenanigans with two of the old Amiga IP holders. Everybody wants to be in charge! :-)

    I'm pretty pessimistic at the moment.

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  • From Bob_C@21:3/193 to Gods69 on Sun Nov 30 16:33:13 2025
    re: Legal difficulties

    The latest issue of COMPUTE!s GAZETTE has a detailed description of all the legal wrangling that is holding up the production ofTHE A1200. It's an interesting, if
    maddening story!

    As usual, everybody wants a piece of the pie. :-)

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  • From phigan@21:1/141 to Gods69 on Tue Dec 2 20:44:27 2025
    How much was the TheA1200 you ordered?
    /s
    Oops.

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  • From phigan@21:1/141 to Gods69 on Tue Dec 2 20:45:34 2025
    Oh, I see you said 190euros. Not bad!

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  • From Gods69@21:3/220 to phigan on Tue Dec 2 15:44:21 2025
    Oh, I see you said 190euros. Not bad!

    189.99 Euros. Free delivery and scheduled for June 20, 2026.

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  • From Gods69@21:3/220 to Retroswim on Wed Dec 3 21:55:05 2025
    That's the trouble with Amigas, they multiply. :D

    Haha, you are right! It is true that Commodore "Brand" is very active at the moment with the Amiga and C64.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Gods69 on Wed Dec 3 13:56:50 2025
    Re: Re: TheA1200
    By: Gods69 to Retroswim on Wed Dec 03 2025 09:55 pm

    That's the trouble with Amigas, they multiply. :D

    Haha, you are right! It is true that Commodore "Brand" is very active at the moment with the Amiga and C64.

    Several years ago, I remember seeing ads for a new Commodore 64 computer, but it was basically a Windows PC in a Commodore 64 style keyboard case. It had a fairly standard PC motherboard, made to fit that case, with a fairly standard I/O backplate on the back of the keyboard case. It looked cool, and I thought about buying one, but I didn't. And I don't think they kept making those.

    I seem to recall hearing something about a new Amiga computer being released.. I just did a search online, and I saw this about an upcoming re-release of the Amiga 1200 (which you can pre-order), though I don't think this is what I was thinking of:

    https://retrogames.biz/products/thea1200/

    That looks pretty cool.. though I'm not sure if it's something I'd use very often.

    Nightfox
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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Gods69 on Thu Dec 4 11:14:56 2025
    Re: Re: TheA1200
    By: Gods69 to Nightfox on Thu Dec 04 2025 01:40 pm

    https://retrogames.biz/products/thea1200/

    That looks pretty cool.. though I'm not sure if it's something I'd use
    very often.

    It will be like the C64 Maxi released years ago. An A500 mini with a working USB keyboard... I don't know if the ARM SoC will be upgraded. Some people just buy it to put a Myster FPGA inside...

    I saw that it uses emulation.. It's cool that it's in a case that is modeled after the original Amiga 1200, but if it uses emulation, I can run an Amiga emulator on my PC right now.

    Nightfox
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  • From Mortar M.@21:2/101 to Gods69 on Thu Dec 4 11:30:49 2025
    Re: TheA1200
    By: Gods69 to All on Sat Nov 29 2025 17:08:42

    Are you going to buy the new "TheA1200" from Retro Games ? And why ?

    No. Because it doesn't come with an OS; it's strictly a game machine.
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  • From Mortar M.@21:2/101 to Retroswim on Thu Dec 4 11:35:04 2025
    Re: Re: TheA1200
    By: Retroswim to Gods69 on Wed Dec 03 2025 22:41:34

    I've two A1200 and one A500.

    That's the trouble with Amigas, they multiply. :D

    One more and you'll have...THE THREE AMIGAS!
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  • From Gods69@21:3/220 to Mortar M. on Thu Dec 4 22:08:26 2025
    Are you going to buy the new "TheA1200" from Retro Games ? And why ?

    No. Because it doesn't come with an OS; it's strictly a game machine.

    No, it will came with Amiga Workbench OS_3.1 and with emulation of a Hard Drive (HDF files) you have one working Amiga computer.

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  • From Gods69@21:3/220 to Nightfox on Thu Dec 4 22:14:51 2025
    I saw that it uses emulation.. It's cool that it's in a case that is modeled after the original Amiga 1200, but if it uses emulation, I can
    run an Amiga emulator on my PC right now.

    All use emulation now, in software or hardware (FPGA). Even now we emulate faster CPU's on real Amiga hardware, like the 68060 or 68080 CPU cores.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Gods69 on Thu Dec 4 15:14:50 2025
    Re: Re: TheA1200
    By: Gods69 to Mortar M. on Thu Dec 04 2025 10:08 pm

    Are you going to buy the new "TheA1200" from Retro Games ? And why ?

    No. Because it doesn't come with an OS; it's strictly a game machine.

    No, it will came with Amiga Workbench OS_3.1 and with emulation of a Hard Drive (HDF files) you have one working Amiga computer.

    You replied to me but didn't quote anything from me.. The things you quoted were written by other people. ??

    Nightfox
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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Gods69 on Thu Dec 4 15:16:53 2025
    Re: Re: TheA1200
    By: Gods69 to Nightfox on Thu Dec 04 2025 10:14 pm

    I saw that it uses emulation.. It's cool that it's in a case that is
    modeled after the original Amiga 1200, but if it uses emulation, I can
    run an Amiga emulator on my PC right now.

    All use emulation now, in software or hardware (FPGA). Even now we emulate faster CPU's on real Amiga hardware, like the 68060 or 68080 CPU cores.

    Yeah, though I was thinking that a FPGA hardware solution would be more interesting. And is FPGA actually considered emulation? I thought I had read somewhere that some people don't consider that emulation, as FPGA basically re-creates the original capabilities in hardware; also, I think that should theoretically be 100% compatible and run just as well as the original hardware, whereas software emulation can be a bit tricky and not always be 100% compatible with all software for that platform.

    Nightfox
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  • From neoshock@21:1/150 to Gods69 on Thu Dec 4 15:24:46 2025
    Hi,
    Are you going to buy the new "TheA1200" from Retro Games ? And why ?

    I do hope to get one, unfortunately it can't be anytime soon. I did purchase a 64 maxi, and do like it.

    Lloyd (neoshock) sysop @ Classic Computing BBS
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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Nightfox on Fri Dec 5 12:44:33 2025
    On 04 Dec 2025 at 03:16p, Nightfox pondered and said...

    All use emulation now, in software or hardware (FPGA). Even now we em faster CPU's on real Amiga hardware, like the 68060 or 68080 CPU core

    Responding to the above (not by Nightfox), the 68060 was a
    real CPU manufactured by Motorola. It wasn't used in many
    places, unfortunately: the Pentium had taken over for
    consumer-grade desktop machines, and the workstations vendors
    had all moved to RISC CPUs by then.

    Yeah, though I was thinking that a FPGA hardware solution would be more interesting. And is FPGA actually considered emulation? I thought I
    had read somewhere that some people don't consider that emulation, as
    FPGA basically re-creates the original capabilities in hardware; also, I think that should theoretically be 100% compatible and run just as well
    as the original hardware, whereas software emulation can be a bit tricky and not always be 100% compatible with all software for that platform.

    FPGAs are programmable logic. You compile a program written
    in a language like VHDL, (System) Verilog, or BlueSpec classic
    into a bitstream that you can them load into the FPGA, and the
    bitstream defines what the logic part does. Today's bigger
    FPGAs contain a lot of stuff like DRAM, PHYs for various
    protocols (PCIe, I2C/I3C, eSPI, USB, CAM, UARTs, ethernet MACs,
    whatever). But if used to implement a CPU core, we call such
    a beast a "soft core", since it's defined by software: the source VHDL/Verilog/BlueSpec/Chisel/Whatever program.

    In that spirit, FPGAs running soft cores exhibit many of the
    same quirky properties of software emulations of these older
    CPUs.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to tenser on Thu Dec 4 16:52:09 2025
    Re: Re: TheA1200
    By: tenser to Nightfox on Fri Dec 05 2025 12:44 pm

    Yeah, though I was thinking that a FPGA hardware solution would be more
    interesting. And is FPGA actually considered emulation? I thought I had
    read somewhere that some people don't consider that emulation, as FPGA
    basically re-creates the original capabilities in hardware; also, I think
    that should theoretically be 100% compatible and run just as well as the
    original hardware, whereas software emulation can be a bit tricky and not
    always be 100% compatible with all software for that platform.

    FPGAs are programmable logic. You compile a program written in a language like VHDL, (System) Verilog, or BlueSpec classic into a bitstream that you can them load into the FPGA, and the bitstream defines what the logic part does. Today's bigger FPGAs contain a lot of stuff like DRAM, PHYs for various protocols (PCIe, I2C/I3C, eSPI, USB, CAM, UARTs, ethernet MACs, whatever). But if used to implement a CPU core, we call such a beast a "soft core", since it's defined by software: the source VHDL/Verilog/BlueSpec/Chisel/Whatever program.

    In that spirit, FPGAs running soft cores exhibit many of the same quirky properties of software emulations of these older CPUs.

    Ah, that makes sense.

    Nightfox
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