Hell no. I have a real A1200 :)
I will certainly consider getting one, if the asking price isn't too outrageous!
Unfortunately, it may never be released, due to legal shenanigans with
two of the old Amiga IP holders. Everybody wants to be in charge! :-)
Oh, I see you said 190euros. Not bad!
That's the trouble with Amigas, they multiply. :D
That's the trouble with Amigas, they multiply. :D
Haha, you are right! It is true that Commodore "Brand" is very active at the moment with the Amiga and C64.
https://retrogames.biz/products/thea1200/
That looks pretty cool.. though I'm not sure if it's something I'd use
very often.
It will be like the C64 Maxi released years ago. An A500 mini with a working USB keyboard... I don't know if the ARM SoC will be upgraded. Some people just buy it to put a Myster FPGA inside...
Are you going to buy the new "TheA1200" from Retro Games ? And why ?
I've two A1200 and one A500.
That's the trouble with Amigas, they multiply. :D
Are you going to buy the new "TheA1200" from Retro Games ? And why ?
No. Because it doesn't come with an OS; it's strictly a game machine.
I saw that it uses emulation.. It's cool that it's in a case that is modeled after the original Amiga 1200, but if it uses emulation, I can
run an Amiga emulator on my PC right now.
Are you going to buy the new "TheA1200" from Retro Games ? And why ?
No. Because it doesn't come with an OS; it's strictly a game machine.
No, it will came with Amiga Workbench OS_3.1 and with emulation of a Hard Drive (HDF files) you have one working Amiga computer.
I saw that it uses emulation.. It's cool that it's in a case that is
modeled after the original Amiga 1200, but if it uses emulation, I can
run an Amiga emulator on my PC right now.
All use emulation now, in software or hardware (FPGA). Even now we emulate faster CPU's on real Amiga hardware, like the 68060 or 68080 CPU cores.
Hi,
Are you going to buy the new "TheA1200" from Retro Games ? And why ?
All use emulation now, in software or hardware (FPGA). Even now we em faster CPU's on real Amiga hardware, like the 68060 or 68080 CPU core
Yeah, though I was thinking that a FPGA hardware solution would be more interesting. And is FPGA actually considered emulation? I thought I
had read somewhere that some people don't consider that emulation, as
FPGA basically re-creates the original capabilities in hardware; also, I think that should theoretically be 100% compatible and run just as well
as the original hardware, whereas software emulation can be a bit tricky and not always be 100% compatible with all software for that platform.
Yeah, though I was thinking that a FPGA hardware solution would be more
interesting. And is FPGA actually considered emulation? I thought I had
read somewhere that some people don't consider that emulation, as FPGA
basically re-creates the original capabilities in hardware; also, I think
that should theoretically be 100% compatible and run just as well as the
original hardware, whereas software emulation can be a bit tricky and not
always be 100% compatible with all software for that platform.
FPGAs are programmable logic. You compile a program written in a language like VHDL, (System) Verilog, or BlueSpec classic into a bitstream that you can them load into the FPGA, and the bitstream defines what the logic part does. Today's bigger FPGAs contain a lot of stuff like DRAM, PHYs for various protocols (PCIe, I2C/I3C, eSPI, USB, CAM, UARTs, ethernet MACs, whatever). But if used to implement a CPU core, we call such a beast a "soft core", since it's defined by software: the source VHDL/Verilog/BlueSpec/Chisel/Whatever program.
In that spirit, FPGAs running soft cores exhibit many of the same quirky properties of software emulations of these older CPUs.
Yeah, though I was thinking that a FPGA hardware solution would be more interesting. And is FPGA actually considered emulation? I thought I
had read somewhere that some people don't consider that emulation, as
FPGA basically re-creates the original capabilities in hardware; also, I think that should theoretically be 100% compatible and run just as well and not always be 100% compatible with all software for that platform.
Are you going to buy the new "TheA1200" from Retro Games ? And why ?
I do hope to get one, unfortunately it can't be anytime soon. I did purchase a 64 maxi, and do like it.
Responding to the above (not by Nightfox), the 68060 was a
real CPU manufactured by Motorola. It wasn't used in many
FPGA is also emulation. You must also program it in VHDL or Verilog language. There is an "Human" factor, with this "BUG's" inside.
With FPGA you can do all the things in parallel, one bloc for the Clocks, one for generating the display, one for Sound, another for CPU, etc... They work individualy, no need to wait for each.
In software you have do to all the jogs sequencely. But with the CPU
more and more powerful the gap is narrowing.
Re: Re: TheA1200
By: Gods69 to Nightfox on Thu Dec 04 2025 22:14:51
All use emulation now, in software or hardware (FPGA).
FPGA is not emulation.
FPGA is not emulation.
Of course it is. None of these machines, when they were still being manufactured, shipped with a soft core on an FPGA. They shipped with regular, run-of-the-mill 68k series CPUs in silicon.
FPGAs are programmed with a bitstream that makes them do, well, whatever the bitstream is programmed to do; in this case, perhaps, implement the core of an MC68k CPU.
Because the FPGA itself is a hardware device that provides programmable logic, and not a general-purpose CPU that's running a program compiled to that CPU's ISA that is emulating another machine, I can see how one might not consider them "emulation" in the same category as a software emulator. But this is, at best, arguing semantics.
I've heard FPGAs are (or can be) generally
100% compatible and don't have these issues though.
No, it will came with Amiga Workbench OS_3.1...
All use emulation now, in software or hardware (FPGA).
Re: Re: TheA1200
By: tenser to Mortar M. on Tue Dec 09 2025 10:22 am
FPGA is not emulation.
Of course it is. None of these machines, when they were still being manufactured, shipped with a soft core on an FPGA. They shipped with regular, run-of-the-mill 68k series CPUs in silicon.
FPGAs are programmed with a bitstream that makes them do, well, whate the bitstream is programmed to do; in this case, perhaps, implement t core of an MC68k CPU.
Because the FPGA itself is a hardware device that provides programmab logic, and not a general-purpose CPU that's running a program compile that CPU's ISA that is emulating another machine, I can see how one m not consider them "emulation" in the same category as a software emul But this is, at best, arguing semantics.
While it might not be the same exact physical CPU, even though an FPGA is programmable, I feel like FPGA could be thought of as a hardware re-creation of the original.
But even so, I've heard software emulation often isn't totally 100% accurate (maybe 99% though); compared to the original hardware, software emulation can have some issues that make it behave differently in some small cases (and corner cases). I've heard FPGAs are (or can be) generally 100% compatible and don't have these issues though.
No, I'll probably not buy TheA1200. I already have too many Amigas.
No, I'll probably not buy TheA1200. I already have too many Amigas.
Can I have one? :D
I'm using my A1200(pi4) 95% of the time and my A500 5% of the time. Something like that.
Is the pi4 in a a1200 case?
Also got the IDE68+8MB of Fast RAM on my A500. With a 4GB CF ,KS 3.1 ROM and a 68010 CPU. Also have the RGB2HDMI module but not installed. Still using my old commodore 1085S PAL monitor.
Nice setup. I forgot to mention it also has a gotek. The goal was to replicate my first Amiga. It was an A500 with a harddrive (Oktagon 52MB and 8 MB RAM). Now I only need some more chip RAM and an external diskdrive and I'm all set. :)
Mine also have a gotek drive. Have "destroyed" a little the A500 case to fit it. I have a rare 2MB chip Ram AGNUS chip for A500 but never
installed it. Is not simple to install, need also an PCB with RAM chip
and de-solder the Agnus support.
2 MB Chip? The things I would do to get my hands on an upgrade like
that. :P Mine has only 512 KB chip RAM. :( Well, I don't really need anymore but it would be nice to have it anyway.
Is the pi4 in a a1200 case?
Yes, it is. I also have a Keyrah stuck inside the case. Running AmigaOS3.2.
My daily driver.
If you have an 6A rev A500 motherboard you have an 1 MB Agnus Chip.
Nice! This is exactly what I'm aiming for? Did you manage to get the LED lights working? If so, through the GPIO pins, wiring, and LED's ?
I'm planning to put a mini pc in, but need to figure out the power side
of things. May buy a barell extension with an inline switch on it and
just have it hang out of the case? As for the lighting, not sure....
I may also need to find some 3d printed panels for the back so I can
have USB extension ran to it? Still don't know where to buy some from...
Yes, it is. I also have a Keyrah stuck inside the case. Running AmigaOS3.2.
My daily driver.
Sort of, the power led works. But I have installed a LED-strip inside
the case. Looks fabulous when turned on.
Nice, lots of power then. With host-run you can get the best of both worlds with that setup.
I don't have any panels on the back, so there is room for improvment on that for me. :)
That's not a bad idea.... You got any photos you could post somewhere?
An old picture but it looks the same today. At the moment the LED is
blue. :) As you can see in the picture I'm using AmigaOS3.2 with the Chromium webbrowser (browsing absinthebbs.net). Chromium is a Linux application ofcourse.
Mine is a rev 5 with a 8371.
Getting am access denied trying to load that link.
Is not very difficult to do the modification but now is more difficult
to find a cheap 8372A Agnus Chip... :-(
You'll have to trust me when I say that it looks marvelous. :)
Are you going to buy the new "TheA1200" from Retro Games ? And why ?
re-release of the Amiga 1200 (which you can pre-order), though I don't think this is what I was thinking of:
https://retrogames.biz/products/thea1200/
That looks pretty cool.. though I'm not sure if it's something I'd use very often.
FPGA is not emulation.
For instance, the PC/XT core for MiSTer FPGA is /pretty good/, but can't run
My A500 is modestly updated with RGB2HDMI, IDE68+8MB RAM and it runs a lovely blue WB1.3.
True that. Those Agnus chips are expensive and rather hard to find too.
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