• C64 Reborn

    From Mortar M.@21:2/101 to niter3 on Mon Dec 29 12:27:23 2025
    Re: C64 Reborn
    By: niter3 to Mortar M. on Mon Dec 29 2025 02:39:53

    Which one did you get? Beige? Hows the keyboard flex I keep hearing about?

    I did get the beige. I was tempted by the Founder's Ed., but that model won't be shipped until '26, plus since I had one before, I wanted that nostalgia aspect.

    I had one ordered but cancelled it until I know if I really truly want one. I am not much of a gamer.

    Don't have to be. This isn't a console. It's a full-blown computer, so you can create whatever you want; music, graphics, productivity, etc.

    If you want to get in on the Launch Year sale, you got a little over 1 day and 43 min. to go. After that, add 50 bucks to the price. To get more info and specs, go to Commodore.net.

    If you decide to wait, there are emulators--both online and off--you can mess with to see if Commodore BASIC is your jam. I recommend the VICE emulator (offline). It emulates, not only the C64, but all of Commodore's 8-bit computers.
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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Niter3 on Wed Dec 31 10:55:13 2025
    BY: niter3 (21:1/199)

    |11n|09> |10Are you planning to buy a c64u?|07
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    I was thinking of Amiga since you can do more things with those.


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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to niter3 on Wed Dec 31 20:10:34 2025
    On 31 Dec 2025, niter3 said the following...

    I'm glad you asked!

    Im wondering can you run a bbs with it?

    After some research of my own (not owning one) it very much should be
    able to.

    Image BBS is an easy one to setup under Vice at least. I'm sure bucko or one of the other guys could help or provide documentation?

    Which I should look into? Is there documentation for Image BBS base install... Must be...

    Are you planning to buy a c64u?

    You can run Image on the new 64u, the only thing that hasn't been tested well is the built in Swiftlink, I used to run one of my boards on a Ultimate 64 (the precursor of the new 64u) but I used a real swiftlink with a PC to run BBS Server as the telnet connector. My personal opinion is why use a 50 year old computer or for that matter a computer you just spent $400 on to run a BBS???? Run it is Vice and use an old PC or buy a off lease PC on eBay for $30! I run my boards in VM's on Proxmoxx.. My BBS on a Stick project makes it very simple to install and run in either Windows or Linux.

    I guess it's time to start playing with my U64 and update it to see about getting it working fine with Image..


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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Utopian Galt on Wed Dec 31 15:51:23 2025
    Are you planning to buy a c64u?

    I was thinking of Amiga since you can do more things with those.

    Right! That's basically what I did. I had the c64u on purchase and cancelled it and bought an a1200 case, and will be getting a keyboard in the new years.

    As of today, I've been building out my dedicate PC I think that will be going in the case. I'll have to pull it from this mini pc case and see if it's possible. If not, I'll have to pickup a pi.

    Are you looking for a real Amiga or something else?

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to niter3 on Thu Jan 1 19:47:20 2026
    On 01 Jan 2026, niter3 said the following...


    Nice! I'll keep an eye out for updates...

    Obviously I don't have a c64u at the moment...

    Is there also a normal install guide from scratch?


    A normal install guide for Image? If so, yes, the doc file has the installation instructions, I also have written a doc file which starts at the beginning and goes from there, Just don't know where I uploaded it to! More than likely it is on my webpage under Image support and probably in the section for Wrong Number family files..


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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to phigan on Thu Jan 1 19:50:26 2026
    On 01 Jan 2026, phigan said the following...


    I notice there isn't a C*Base Wrong Number board....

    No, never got into C*Base, I run what I ran back in the day. Image, and C-Net Amiga, although I wish I could run Excelsior! for the Amiga because that was what I ran in the 90's but because it is not Y2K it won't run properly with FTN networks. The Centipede board I run is a ode to my Co-SysOp from back in the day he never wanted to run what everyone else ran, I put that up because he died a year and a half ago, and I just wanted to do something in his memory!


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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to niter3 on Fri Jan 2 18:50:04 2026
    On 02 Jan 2026, niter3 said the following...


    Sounds like I have some digging to do. :)


    Here is the link to the install guide for installing in Vice...

    https://www.wrgnbr.com/files/WNF_Files/imageinstall.pdf

    If you need the docs to the whole thing let me know and I will put that on my website also...


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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Mortar M. on Mon Dec 29 02:39:52 2025
    I'm glad you asked!

    So far, so good. The build quality is excellent. It doesn't feel
    flimsy or cheap. The case is solid and the keys have a nice feel to
    them, both in texture and travel, with a satisfying <CLACK!> when you type. The colors and layout are exactly like the original; dark-brown main keys and dark-buttscotch F-keys. Personally, I preferred the gray F-keys that were used on the early 64s, but no big.

    Gotta give Commodore props for the accoutrements. They didn't skimp.
    The main box is heavy-grade cardboard, while slimmer than the original, still looks very much like the original. The User's Guide is
    spiral-bound with heavy-grade paper (at 243 pages, this thing's got some weight behind it) with clear illustrations and typography; I'm still
    going over it, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of the content.
    Finally, the included PSU is nothing like the original; it's small, translucent and gives you plenty of cable. Everything was neatly packed and wraped.

    As to its actual use, I'm still exploring, but so far everything seems
    to work as expected. The next thing is to explore the included included software (games, demos, etc.). I was never a big 8-bit gameer, but
    it'll be interesting to see what's included. One program I'm looking forward to is GEOS, a GUI used by the 64, 128, Plus 4 and Apple ][.

    I could go on, but I don't want to bore everyone too much. But I could
    be pursuaded. ;)

    Go on!

    Which one did you get? Beige? Hows the keyboard flex I keep hearing about?

    I had one ordered but cancelled it until I know if I really truly want one. I am not much of a gamer.

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Mortar M. on Tue Dec 30 23:05:08 2025
    BY: Mortar M. (21:2/101)

    |11MM|09> |10 Re: Merry Christmas!|07
    |11MM|09> |10 By: niter3 to Mortar M. on Sun Dec 28 2025 09:22:07|07
    |11MM|09> |07
    |11MM|09> |10> Let us know what you think of it.|07
    |11MM|09> |07
    |11MM|09> |10I'm glad you asked!|07
    |11MM|09> |07
    Im wondering can you run a bbs with it?


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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Utopian Galt on Wed Dec 31 07:07:10 2025
    BY: Mortar M. (21:2/101)

    Re: Merry Christmas!
    By: niter3 to Mortar M. on Sun Dec 28 2025 09:22:07

    Let us know what you think of it.

    I'm glad you asked!

    Im wondering can you run a bbs with it?

    After some research of my own (not owning one) it very much should be able to.

    Image BBS is an easy one to setup under Vice at least. I'm sure bucko or one of the other guys could help or provide documentation?

    Which I should look into? Is there documentation for Image BBS base install... Must be...

    Are you planning to buy a c64u?

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Bucko on Thu Jan 1 08:25:02 2026
    You can run Image on the new 64u, the only thing that hasn't been tested well is the built in Swiftlink, I used to run one of my boards on a Ultimate 64 (the precursor of the new 64u) but I used a real swiftlink with a PC to run BBS Server as the telnet connector. My personal opinion is why use a 50 year old computer or for that matter a computer you just spent $400 on to run a BBS???? Run it is Vice and use an old PC or buy a off lease PC on eBay for $30! I run my boards in VM's on Proxmoxx.. My
    BBS on a Stick project makes it very simple to install and run in either Windows or Linux.

    You're not wrong, all that money spent to run only a BBS on...

    But then again, some people like myself were not big gamers of that time and feel the c64u would just gain dust otherwise?

    There is something to be said about a physical computer sitting there with the WFC up on the screen and somebody dialing in....

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to niter3 on Thu Jan 1 09:18:42 2026
    On 01 Jan 2026, niter3 said the following...

    You're not wrong, all that money spent to run only a BBS on...

    But then again, some people like myself were not big gamers of that time and feel the c64u would just gain dust otherwise?

    There is something to be said about a physical computer sitting there
    with the WFC up on the screen and somebody dialing in....

    ... Press SPACEBAR once to abort, or twice to save changes

    Totally agree, when I was running one on my U64, at least it was getting used. Now it just sits there, I am probably 4 or 5 updates behind also as I haven't used it in ages!! In the next few weeks I will update my U64 and see about getting the settings straight to have Image run on it fine..


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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Bucko on Thu Jan 1 09:54:42 2026
    Totally agree, when I was running one on my U64, at least it was getting used. Now it just sits there, I am probably 4 or 5 updates behind also
    as I haven't used it in ages!! In the next few weeks I will update my
    U64 and see about getting the settings straight to have Image run on it fine..

    Nice! I'll keep an eye out for updates...

    Obviously I don't have a c64u at the moment...

    Is there also a normal install guide from scratch?

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to niter3 on Thu Jan 1 09:39:26 2026
    niter3 wrote to Bucko <=-

    There is something to be said about a physical computer sitting there
    with the WFC up on the screen and somebody dialing in....

    My first solo apartment was a studio in downtown San Francisco. Old, art
    deco building with a huge walk-in closet. I took one of my parent's
    cast-off end-tables, a cast-off IBM AT clone from work, and set up my
    BBS in that closet. My green monochrome monitor ended up getting burned
    in with the FrontDoor WFC screen.

    If I left the closet door open, I'd get a bit of a green cast - enough
    to get up and walk around at night.

    I remember hearing the modem speaker on the lowest setting and the hard
    drive chattering during the middle of the night, it amazed me that a
    computer in my closet was transferring mail and accepting callers from
    around the world in different time zones.



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  • From phigan@21:3/193 to Bucko on Thu Jan 1 22:54:36 2026
    Totally agree, when I was running one on my U64, at least it was getting used. Now it just sits there, I am probably 4 or 5 updates behind also as

    I notice there isn't a C*Base Wrong Number board....


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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 2 07:47:00 2026
    BBS in that closet. My green monochrome monitor ended up getting burned
    in with the FrontDoor WFC screen.

    HA, I can recall this being an issue for many monitors. Good old CRT's. :)

    I remember hearing the modem speaker on the lowest setting and the hard drive chattering during the middle of the night, it amazed me that a computer in my closet was transferring mail and accepting callers from around the world in different time zones.

    Did you loose sleep over it?

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Bucko on Fri Jan 2 07:53:30 2026
    A normal install guide for Image? If so, yes, the doc file has the installation instructions, I also have written a doc file which starts
    at the beginning and goes from there, Just don't know where I uploaded
    it to! More than likely it is on my webpage under Image support and probably in the section for Wrong Number family files..

    Sounds like I have some digging to do. :)

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Bucko on Sat Jan 3 07:15:42 2026
    Here is the link to the install guide for installing in Vice...

    https://www.wrgnbr.com/files/WNF_Files/imageinstall.pdf

    Awesome! Thanks, bookmarked it for a later read.

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