• IcyBoard 0.1.6 release

    From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to All on Sun Oct 5 09:51:04 2025
    Worked a bit on IcyBoard the last few days, set up a little test BBS.
    IcyBoard is a possible successor to PCBoard.
    Aim is to be fully compatible and run on linux/mac/windows -
    see readme for features/differences:
    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board


    PPE files work pretty well - however would need feedback - still possible to run into missing functions.

    PPL compiler/decompiler included - is even backwards compatible to all pcboard versions and creates smaller binaries.
    Worked a bit on IcyBoard the last few days, set up a little test BBS.
    IcyBoard is a possible successor to PCBoard.
    Aim is to be fully compatible and run on linux/mac/windows -
    see readme for features/differences:
    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board


    PPE files work pretty well - however would need feedback -
    still possible to run into missing functions.


    PPL compiler/decompiler included - is even backwards
    compatible to all pcboard versions and creates smaller binaries.


    Other tools are included as well - should be possible to import
    existing pcboard installations more or less - they're still dos
    so manual editing is required. IcyBoard is aimed to run on
    modern OSes and not DOS.


    Release:
    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board/releases/tag/0.1.6


    Demo:
    https://youtu.be/nTcSYmQt4ek

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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Omnibrain on Sun Oct 5 13:32:40 2025
    Worked a bit on IcyBoard the last few days, set up a little test BBS. IcyBoard is a possible successor to PCBoard.
    Aim is to be fully compatible and run on linux/mac/windows -
    see readme for features/differences:
    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board

    Any chance of making this or another like the MBBSEMU where it will run
    PPE's but allow rLogin's to use it as a "server"?

    ... I'm a modemer & I'm OK, I post all night & I sleep all day.

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Mon Oct 6 18:33:40 2025
    Worked a bit on IcyBoard the last few days, set up a little test BBS. IcyBoard is a possible successor to PCBoard.

    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board

    Awesome - thanks for the release, I'll get it up @ 2oFB... its really nice that you're trying to preserve PCB on modern machines. w00t w00t!



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Mon Oct 6 18:35:07 2025
    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board/releases/tag/0.1.6

    Hey - one last thing... can you please include FILE_ID.DIZ in your release .zips??? It helps when uploading to bbSes... I know, I know; but it would be nice.



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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Paulie420 on Mon Oct 6 21:59:48 2025
    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board/releases/tag/0.1.6

    Hey - one last thing... can you please include FILE_ID.DIZ in your release .zips??? It helps when uploading to bbSes... I know, I know; but it would b nice.

    You're supposed to say "OR ELSE ..." :)

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Exodus on Mon Oct 6 19:54:36 2025
    https://github.com/mkrueger/icy_board/releases/tag/0.1.6

    Hey - one last thing... can you please include FILE_ID.DIZ in your rele .zips??? It helps when uploading to bbSes... I know, I know; but it wou nice.

    You're supposed to say "OR ELSE ..." :)

    Funny thing is - I think I mentioned this last release, AND they ALREADY contain FILE_ID.DIZs. :P

    So kudos to Omnibrain... they already are ready for bbS primetime!! :P

    Ooops, p420.



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Tue Oct 7 18:25:52 2025
    Hey - one last thing... can you please include FILE_ID.DIZ in your release .zips??? It helps when uploading to bbSes... I know, I know; it would be nice.

    AHHH - should be in the build files... need to look what's going wrong.
    I use the same build scripts for all tools - including FILE_ID.DIZ.

    I think you already added it - when I uploaded to 2oFB, it pulled the descriptions. :P Good on you.

    Nitpick??? Maybe add that one non .zip file into a .zip w/ FILE_ID.DIZ. :P (But no worries there!!)



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Tue Oct 7 18:28:28 2025
    icy_board really needs testing - it's a pcboard so it's hard to set up. Real feedback so far: 0

    I have zero PCB experience, but I DO have TONS of PCB mods/stuff on 2oFB - I'll try to get it installed and maybe I'll just try throwing a bunch of legacy PCB code at it... will report if I do. :P



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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to paulie420 on Tue Oct 7 19:54:59 2025

    I have zero PCB experience, but I DO have TONS of PCB mods/stuff on 2oFB
    - I'll try to get it installed and maybe I'll just try throwing a bunch
    of legacy PCB code at it... will report if I do. :P


    Would help - esp. feedback. PCB was let's say a nightmare to install/get going. That was part of why it was so popular - high school kids thought they were cool when they could manage to install that crap :).

    Unfortunately icy board inherited that complexity - I tried to make it easier but it's still needed to understand the PCB system. Feedback from someone who never tried PCB would be interesting :).

    But probably ~500 pages of PCB documentation is missing. Maybe that'll be something that I need to work on. AGEGIS tried something like icy board back in the 90' - started with a decompiler, compiler and then tried to re create a modern PCBoard. They wrote lots of documentation about it - because it was needed. (They never finished or got it as far as icy board - internet killed it)

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Omnibrain on Tue Oct 7 21:36:00 2025


    I have zero PCB experience, but I DO have TONS of PCB mods/stuff on
    2oFB
    - I'll try to get it installed and maybe I'll just try throwing a
    bunch
    of legacy PCB code at it... will report if I do. :P


    Would help - esp. feedback. PCB was let's say a nightmare to install/get going. That was part of why it was so popular - high school kids thought they were cool when they could manage to install that crap :).

    Unfortunately icy board inherited that complexity - I tried to make it easier but it's still needed to understand the PCB system. Feedback from someone who never tried PCB would be interesting :).

    But probably ~500 pages of PCB documentation is missing. Maybe that'll be something that I need to work on. AGEGIS tried something like icy board back in the 90' - started with a decompiler, compiler and then tried to re create a modern PCBoard. They wrote lots of documentation about it - because it was needed. (They never finished or got it as far as icy board - internet killed it)

    I have no PCBoard experience, but love the mods for it... Night Rider's
    board is so fricking slick! I might take a look at this, but I'm not always the quickest...

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Tue Oct 7 20:29:09 2025
    I have zero PCB experience, but I DO have TONS of PCB mods/stuff on 2 - I'll try to get it installed and maybe I'll just try throwing a bun of legacy PCB code at it... will report if I do. :P

    Would help - esp. feedback. PCB was let's say a nightmare to install/get going.

    Unfortunately icy board inherited that complexity - I tried to make it easier but it's still needed to understand the PCB system. Feedback from someone who never tried PCB would be interesting :).

    Ok - I'll try to do an install... but; is there legact PCB documentation that might help??? OR; is that somewhere I might be able to help with the project? I'm not a great coder - I know just enough to get me in trouble... but I am good at figuring out the 'hard' installs; maybe I can help w/ dox???

    But probably ~500 pages of PCB documentation is missing. Maybe that'll be something that I need to work on. AGEGIS tried something like icy board back in the 90' - started with a decompiler, compiler and then tried to
    re create a modern PCBoard. They wrote lots of documentation about it - because it was needed. (They never finished or got it as far as icy
    board - internet killed it)

    OK - right. Well... I might not be good for +/- 500pgs - but I'll open vim and write down what worked for me???



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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to paulie420 on Wed Oct 8 06:30:40 2025
    Ok - I'll try to do an install... but; is there legact PCB documentation that might help??? OR; is that somewhere I might be able to help with
    the project? I'm not a great coder - I know just enough to get me in trouble... but I am good at figuring out the 'hard' installs; maybe I
    can help w/ dox???

    Sure - there is a wiki out there https://kuehlbox.wtf/wiki/start - this basically applies to icy_board. But most tools starting with "pcb" are now starting with "icb" :). pcbsetup -> icbsetup etc.

    I need more help from user POV than code - that's for sure. I've started a new documentation today. I try to get something done this week. It's needed.

    OK - right. Well... I might not be good for +/- 500pgs - but I'll open
    vim and write down what worked for me???

    +1 everything helps. However 500 pgs may be a bit much but it's a programming language attached with hundereds of functions and procedures.

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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to Shurato on Wed Oct 8 06:35:29 2025
    I have no PCBoard experience, but love the mods for it... Night Rider's board is so fricking slick! I might take a look at this, but I'm not always the quickest...

    Started working on PPL 2022... good had icy_term/draw/view in between and didn't intend to write a bbs system for sure... so it's not urgent. Just somewhat I can't stop now - I did go too far :)

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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Omnibrain on Thu Oct 16 18:13:08 2025
    Hey Omnibrain!

    On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 12:11:18 -0700, you wrote:

    It's easier to handle bugs on github :). But using messages is ok as
    well. Better than no bug reports. It's a complex system so I think there
    are many issues here and there.

    Ok. Once I get past this conversation and dive deeper, including PPEs and whatnot, I'll go there, instead. I also switched to a debug build, just in case.

    - When applying as a new user, the "Please enter city/state"
    question currently does not allow commas or spaces. In my case, a
    normal answer there would be "Pewaukee, WI (or Wisconsin if not
    abbreviating the state)".

    fixed.

    Confirmed.

    - When you login and are inputting your real name or alias, only
    capital letters are inputted. Anywhere else I've come across,
    including the application process.. lowercase can be used. This one
    is probably an outstanding limitation from the original PCBoard
    itself, as I remember not liking the name only using capitol
    letters.

    y it's a pcboard thing.

    Would love to not have this restriction at all. Using all uppercase in this day and age is terrible. ;)

    - When you hit "B" for bulletins, you're essentially stuck there. I
    can't hit "Q" or "X" or even ENTER to go back to the main menu.
    After I hit something like "S" (I started hitting a bunch of
    letters to see how to get out of it), which is a search for text
    funcion (probably not needed from the bulletins menu) I was able
    hit enter to go back to the main menu.

    fixed - was a side effect. Added test.

    Confirmed working now.

    - When listing users with "USER", if you're only allowing aliases
    (not - "V" to view your statistics doesn't seem to do anything. -
    "WHO" command doesn't do anything for me (at the time I am the only
    one

    Can't repro it with current HEAD - may be something that happened
    between commits.

    After testing again this time around:

    "V" - doesn't do anything
    "LANG" - doesn't do anything
    "WHO" - doesn't do anything

    "USER" - A bit more on this. I did not have a "Real Name" set, as I was only using aliases. So it originally only displayed my location and last on. Once I set a real name, it displays that. Maybe I can change that in mkpcbtxt (or not if the next paragraph is the best way to handle what I'm trying to do, then I wouldn't have to do anything here).

    With this in mind, what would be the best way to eliminate real names and just use an alias that could be more than one word? I see the "What is your first name" prompt allows more than one word, so should I use that, while somehow eliminating the display/use of the "What is your last name" prompt and then just not allowing aliases? I think this is what I did with my PCBoard setup, but if there's a better way, I'd be glad to hear it.

    Seems PCBoard has always put the "alias" category as a secondary, not so visable to the public, option.

    - "icbsysmgr > edit users file > any user > gender" is listed
    twice.

    fixed.

    Confirmed!

    - I just realized "City" is listed twice, also.
    - I can not set my birthday. If I save and exit, and then go back in it displays 01-01-00.
    - Reg Ex Date seems to also be set permanently to 01-01-00.

    Both of the above are also wierd, since I'm using "MM/DD/YY" format. But it doesn't matter how I write the date in those two fields, it always reverts.

    Finally, what is an accounting file? My logs say it is not found, however it is not even enabled, nor is there any accounting files specified in icbsetup.

    I'm digging this, but damn I'm just thinking about how much time I'm going to need to mess with PPEs. :)

    Regards,
    Nick


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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to Accession on Sun Oct 19 09:32:33 2025
    .. does not. It is indeed enabled in icbsetup.

    you set"pharcyde.org" as binding address that doesn't work. Leave that empty that binds to 0.0.0.0 that's the default and ok.

    Binding address is no DNS. If you've a server with more ip addresses this makes sense to set. 0.0.0.0 simply means listen on all ipv4 addresses on the local machine.

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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Omnibrain on Sun Oct 19 11:49:52 2025
    Hey Omnibrain!

    On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 09:32:32 -0700, you wrote:

    Binding address is no DNS. If you've a server with more ip addresses
    this makes sense to set. 0.0.0.0 simply means listen on all ipv4
    addresses on the local machine.

    Gotchya. Removed that and it worked properly. Only one thing after this, once connected via ssh, and hitting enter at the "Enter your first name" prompt a few times, it sends the error that it disconnects, however it doesn't disconnect. I have to manually close the WFC and restart the BBS in order to get out of that session (CTRL-C doesn't even work). Telnet actually disconnects, though.

    Other than that, everything else that is supposed to work from the main menu, now works. Thanks for the fixes! Will dive deeper when time permits.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Omnibrain on Sun Oct 19 08:41:00 2025
    Hey Omnibrain!

    On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 05:37:58 -0700, you wrote:

    Not sure about syncterm but ssh/icyterm works for me. As well as telnet. What are you trying?

    ssh -p 1338 localhost

    ?

    This ssh command works, however:

    telnet localhost 1337

    .. does not. It is indeed enabled in icbsetup.

    Also, when I used the ssh command, at the login prompt I hit enter a few times to disconnect, and it hung while disconnecting. I had to close out of the WFC to fully disconnect that session.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Omnibrain on Fri Oct 17 17:30:52 2025
    Hey Omnibrain!

    On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 21:41:54 -0700, you wrote:

    But I need to start from PCBoard - in case of user names it can be
    difficult because PPEs are assuming the uppercase names and would need adjustments when they compare names.

    That's what the PPE decompiler is for! :D

    I need to look at that. I'm not really free to change anything. Like the passwords - had to do 1-2 hacks to make hashing possible and even then
    there is a small chance that I broke something

    Did you take the original source and convert it to Rust?

    After testing again this time around:

    "V" - doesn't do anything
    "LANG" - doesn't do anything
    "WHO" - doesn't do anything

    "USER" - A bit more on this. I did not have a "Real Name" set, as I
    was only using aliases. So it originally only displayed my location
    and last on. Once I set a real name, it displays that. Maybe I can
    change that in mkpcbtxt (or not if the next paragraph is the best
    way to handle what I'm trying to do, then I wouldn't have to do
    anything here).

    I don't think it's possible only using aliases - how did you do that?
    Remove real names in the sysmanager?

    No, I just didn't enter a real name for myself when I created my sysop account.

    - Fixed alias display in 'who' there was a setting I didn't use for it.

    Alias display in 'who' or 'user? Remember, 'who' isn't working at all for me, so I only noticed that listing users didn't display the alias.

    Which "Real Name" setting do you mean? The one in sysop information is
    just for the sysop.

    No, the one in icbsysmgr > edit users file.

    Not sure about the commands - can you zip me the installation/config
    maybe I can find something. There are security settings that could
    prevent them from working.

    I haven't touched anything in the security settings.

    There is always the same answer to such questions: Use a PPE.
    In my test BBS I use PNAlogin.

    I suppose that's probably what I originally did.

    There is no way to eliminate "real names". Forget about aliases that feature in PCBoard is crap. It's not a replacement for real names.

    Right, Now that I think of it, I disabled aliases, and just used aliases for real names with the something in the lines of using one word names setting enabled.

    Y - and worse - aliases are a by conference setting.

    Yep, then I'll stick with the original way I was going about it with PCBoard.

    - I just realized "City" is listed twice, also.

    There are 2 separate city fields in the user records. I assume that
    they rework ed the address at some point.

    Only one gets filled in when a user applies, though, which is why I mentioned it.

    Date editor is not implemented atm. Need to work on that.

    That would definitely explain that then! ;)

    Removed the error message if it's disabled. It's ok not to have it.
    icbsetup now creates the files. Accounting is the idea to charge users
    for activities of some sort. So let's say to introduce an
    upload/download ratio.

    Ah, a "feature" I've never used. But thanks for fixing it anyways!

    ATM it's unused and not very well thought out in PCBoard - for example
    you can c harge for messages written - lol. And it conflicts a bit with
    the limits because you can charge for time as well. Maybe the idea was
    to charge money.

    Most definitely. And this feature would also lead back to Clark Dev profiting, too, because if you were making any kind of money with your BBS, you would have to purchase a commercial license. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Omnibrain on Fri Oct 17 19:27:36 2025
    Hey Omnibrain!

    On Thu, 16 Oct 2025 21:41:54 -0700, you wrote:

    Not sure about the commands - can you zip me the installation/config
    maybe I can find something. There are security settings that could
    prevent them from working.

    Taking a look around, I don't see anything remotely close to a 'chat.pcb'. Is the 'chat' command supposed to display a menu?

    This is another one that doesn't do anything for me currently, along with the others I've mentioned. Makes me wonder if those are supposed to display something also that may not be there.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Omnibrain@21:1/121 to Accession on Sun Oct 19 14:32:01 2025


    Twas Sunday, October 19th when Accession said...
    Gotchya. Removed that and it worked properly. Only one thing after this, once connected via ssh, and hitting enter at the "Enter your first name" prompt a few times, it sends the error that it disconnects, however it doesn't disconnect. I have to manually close the WFC and restart the BBS in order to get out of that session (CTRL-C doesn't even work). Telnet actually disconnects, though.

    y saw that too - and utf8 wasn't handled well -fixed both. I only did testing with telnet. Will need to look at WebSockets too.


    On Sunday, October 19th Accession muttered...
    Other than that, everything else that is supposed to work from the main menu, now works. Thanks for the fixes! Will dive deeper when time permits.

    y could repro with your installation.

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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Omnibrain on Wed Oct 22 21:10:06 2025
    Hey Omnibrain!

    On Sun, 19 Oct 2025 14:32:00 -0600, you wrote:

    y saw that too - and utf8 wasn't handled well -fixed both. I only did testing with telnet. Will need to look at WebSockets too.

    Not sure if when you close an issue, maybe you don't get notifications for it any more. So here's a bump for you to take a look at the most recent issue you closed, as it contains more information.

    I maybe should have opened a new ticket, but I think it had to do with what we were currently discussing (or at least in the same realm). ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to Accession on Thu Oct 23 12:37:48 2025
    Hi

    y open new ones otherwise it's easy to lose track.

    Esp. for things that are completely unrelated - like FNEXT.

    I look at the enhanced who one - there are some functions/statements not implemented but not many.

    I'll take a look at that PPE.

    You can scan ppes with ppld --check to see if one uses functions/statements that are not implemented.
    For the missing ones I search PPEs to test out the implementation.


    Not sure if when you close an issue, maybe you don't get notifications
    for it any more. So here's a bump for you to take a look at the most recent issue you closed, as it contains more information.

    I maybe should have opened a new ticket, but I think it had to do with what we were currently discussing (or at least in the same realm). ;)


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  • From Omnibrain@21:2/150 to Omnibrain on Fri Oct 24 00:30:45 2025
    I maybe should have opened a new ticket, but I think it had to do wit what we were currently discussing (or at least in the same realm). ;)

    Fixed the issues - didn't know the fnext function - it's one easy one to implement.

    Can you check your ppes with:

    find -name "*.PPE" | xargs -n 1 ppld --check

    nice that someone finally tries to use icy board in a real world
    pcboard->icy board transition scenario. I try to recreate it but pcboard is huge. Beside some easy functions I've missed like fnext there are two bigger things that are not implemented:

    DOS things (registers/interupts) and DBASE. Haven't looked into the DBASE thing yet. There are dbase libraries for rust that could handle .dbf files.

    DOS peeks&pokes may be simulated - did that with the nibbles game. For local display it seems that they vsynced the output for making the display smoother. That's something that was possible to fake. But I need the use cases for that.

    But atm I consider the PPE engine almost complete and fix missing PPE functions on a by PPE basis :).

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  • From Accession@21:1/200 to Omnibrain on Sat Oct 25 21:39:12 2025
    Hey Omnibrain!

    On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 00:30:44 -0700, you wrote:

    Fixed the issues - didn't know the fnext function - it's one easy one to implement.

    Thanks, that worked!

    find -name "*.PPE" | xargs -n 1 ppld --check

    For what it's worth, I got another error with another PPE (something to do with file access). Unfortunately, I ran the 'ppld --check' command and it told me the PPE was fine, even though I couldn't get it to run properly in the BBS. Even more unfortunate, when I was messing about with it, decompiling and trying to find an answer.. I deleted the contents of the directory that contained the last callers display and data.. so I deleted the whole directory and don't have the original zip of the PPE any more. I'll find another last callers PPE to try in the meantime.

    nice that someone finally tries to use icy board in a real world pcboard->icy board transition scenario. I try to recreate it but pcboard
    is huge. Beside some easy functions I've missed like fnext there are two bigger things that are not implemented:

    DOS things (registers/interupts) and DBASE. Haven't looked into the
    DBASE thing yet. There are dbase libraries for rust that could handle
    .dbf files.

    DOS peeks&pokes may be simulated - did that with the nibbles game. For
    local display it seems that they vsynced the output for making the
    display smoother. That's something that was possible to fake. But I need
    the use cases for that.

    I suppose I'm not familiar with the above. However, I've had issues with 'icbsetup' and a bunch of options that require input (not just a check mark or X) as far as backspace and delete is concerned, ie they don't work very well, and the text that is there disappears but it's still actually there.

    But atm I consider the PPE engine almost complete and fix missing PPE functions on a by PPE basis :).

    Yeah so far I have about 6 old PPEs from 1993-1995 installed and running fine. It was only the one you already fixed, and some random last callers mod that had a "LCO.PPE" that you needed to run when a user logs off. It doesn't display anything, but I think it added the current user to the last calls list or something. If I run into the same PPE again, I'll let you know - as it was one of the better last calls mods I found, so I'll probably be looking for it again.

    The only real downfall to all of this is sifting through thousands of PPEs to find a decent one that does what you want, because there was sooo much garbage made back in those days, and I really don't have the patience to learn PPL, even though I may be able to learn that quicker than it would take me to find decent PPEs. ;)

    For example, simple ideas like a login matrix PPE, made back then, includes the new user process and an entire new user voting system, as well as other parts of the login process that I wouldn't want as part of the matrix. Just a lightbar login matrix, that can point to other PPEs would be amazing. It doesn't need anything else (because I'd like to do everything else separately). Unfortunately, that means sifting through hundreds of trash PPEs for an hour and not actually accomplishing anything. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Sarcasm: because beating people up is illegal.
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