• Linux, networking, etc.

    From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to nelgin on Fri Jul 25 20:04:39 2025
    Re: Linux, networking, etc.
    By: nelgin to Dumas Walker on Mon Jul 21 2025 02:43 pm

    Interesting thing about Linux was that it had SCO Compatability. It would
    run MicroFocus Cobol and would run our product. I have no idea if it can
    still do that.

    IIRC, wasn't that what caused SCO to eventually try to sue linux, possibly
    in an effort to take it over?

    SCO licensed UNIX (I think it was SYSV V4.3) from AT&T, and interpreted the license agreement as if it were a transfer of ownership. As SCO saw the their paid UNIX cash cow shrinking because of Linux, they looked to other ways to generate revenues.

    SCO believed that IBM contributed UNIX source code to linux. SCO then started shaking down Linux customers for a license fee and suing IBM, a company renowned for the number of attorneys they have on staff. Bad idea.

    Long after SCO shipped their last SCO UNIX package, they were tied up in court until the company no longer existed.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MORTAR on Sat Jul 26 11:10:19 2025
    IIRC, wasn't that what caused SCO to eventually try to sue linux,
    possibly in an effort to take it over?

    You can't sue an object, a product, what-have-you. Only the person(s) or organization/company that owns or is responsible for that object.

    Well, they tried to sue someone/thing associated with linux, of that I am 100% positive.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sat Jul 26 11:10:19 2025
    SCO licensed UNIX (I think it was SYSV V4.3) from AT&T, and interpreted the license agreement as if it were a transfer of ownership. As SCO saw the their paid UNIX cash cow shrinking because of Linux, they looked to other ways to generate revenues.

    SCO believed that IBM contributed UNIX source code to linux. SCO then started shaking down Linux customers for a license fee and suing IBM, a company renowned for the number of attorneys they have on staff. Bad idea.

    Long after SCO shipped their last SCO UNIX package, they were tied up in
    ourt
    until the company no longer existed.

    Thanks. I had forgotten a lot of the details, but knew they continued
    their battle after they ceased doing business.

    IIRC, the conspiracy theory back then was that the coporations involved may have leaked UNIX source into open source on purpose in order to then "take
    it down." ;)


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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jul 29 07:28:52 2025
    Re: Linux, networking, etc.
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to nelgin on Fri Jul 25 2025 08:04 pm

    Long after SCO shipped their last SCO UNIX package, they were tied up in cou until the company no longer existed.

    One year after a Defcon, I was still in Vegas on a Monday and went to have food at some restaurant in the MGM. As I was going to the restaurant, I noticed several people give me weird looks. On the way out of the restaurant I kept getting MORE weird and dirty looks. I couldn't even think of what the deal was. I'm like, "Did I spill something on my shirt?" My shirt, by the way, was the SCO logo with a red circle and line over it, like "No SCO" kinda thing. Well finally I make it to the main lobby of the MGM, and I see a giant banner that says "WELCOME SCO WORLD EXPO". Just my luck.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to phigan on Wed Jul 30 07:24:54 2025
    phigan wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    something on my shirt?" My shirt, by the way, was the SCO logo with a
    red circle and line over it, like "No SCO" kinda thing. Well finally I make it to the main lobby of the MGM, and I see a giant banner that
    says "WELCOME SCO WORLD EXPO". Just my luck.

    Oh, that's funny! Perfect timing, too!



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